We all need to think long and carefully about the message in this sermon. I know I do. And my guess is that plenty of you do, too. May God bless us all.
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"Do not judge, lest ye be judged!"
ReplyDeleteThe first cry of the fornicator. Seriously, I have friends who think they can
get away with whatever they want, just as long as they don't judge anyone
else.
"Hate the sin, not the sinner." I'm still waiting for practical advice on how to punish the sin, not the sinner; deal with the sin, not the sinner; correct the sin, not the sinner. The sin isn't listening; one hopes the sinner is.
ReplyDeleteRelativists interpret this as "don't be judgemental."
ReplyDeleteThat was an informative video. Thanks very much for posting it!
ReplyDeleteI remember from my catechism days that one of the spiritual works of mercy is to admonish the sinner.
ReplyDeleteIs the Cardinal in Scotland saying " let the guilty go unpunished? "
ReplyDeleteThis seems to be the non-judgmental position that refused to clean up our priesthood.
Truth really is simply what is real, and not what we wish or hope it to be.
Was this recorded at the wrong speed? Or does this guy really talk that slowly? It's a very distracting mannerism.
ReplyDeleteI've often contemplated this saying: "Love the sinner, hate the sin" and how to go about that. Like father said, God doesn't condemn sins to hell, but sinners. Therefore we must seek to separate the sinner from his sin. It is then in admonishing the sinner that we are truly loving him. <my2cents
ReplyDeleteHe has a great sermon, very thought provoking, yet his style is annoying. He looks like someone trying explain something to kids. Let him learn to preach well, and he will reach many souls.
ReplyDeleteMy spiritual director told me that we are called to judge the 'fruits' or behavior of others (Cf: By their fruits, you will know them.) but NOT the motivations of another. We have no way of knowing that.
ReplyDeleteTHis has been a very helpful distinction for me to follow in day to day. It keeps me from falling into sin by judging WHY someone is doing something & also keeps from falling into sin by not telling someone they're sinning when I can clearly see their behavior.
Caution: Following the above maxim can result in very awkward Thanksgiving dinners!!
Informative. One could argue that it is out of love for the sinner that one rebukes him, as perpetuating in sin is spiritually harmful to the sinner (especially mortal sin).
ReplyDeleteBy the way I personally liked the style of the homily, but then again I'm an academic (likes lectures) from the Southern US (where people talk slow). So I wouldn't be overly critical on a style, especially when we just finished watching a homily that goes over the idea that we should make charitable assumptions about circumstances when we must make such assumptions (bit of a stretch to here, but still I was amused by the irony).
I want to state that people who live behind the statement of not to judge others, may also have issues with authority and discipline. People in this crowd views rules/authority as harmful and demeaning for a person. I wonder if this is a common trait for all who support the culture of death, where as the use of rules and disipline is not seen as an act of love but an act of hate? (Next sundays reading from the book of hebrews).
ReplyDeleteTolerance is not a virtue.
ReplyDeleteHannity tried the "judge not lest ye be judged, Reverend" line in the famous dust up with Fr. Euteneuer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usTWwSbpWRc
Good morning Patrick! I really enjoyed that . I am reminded of what Mother Theresa once said: "If you judge others, you have no time to love them "
ReplyDeleteThat is a GREAT homily. Destroy the hippy gospel of convenience. I judge the sin because I love. I want the person to focus on their soul and sin effects the sinner.
ReplyDeleteSomeone who spouts the "judge not..." line as a shield is almost always in the wrong. They offer no rationale for their actions and only aim to confuse. I've heard the line before and it's amazing how it comes from atheists and liberal Christian/Catholics who act as if they won some game of "'gotcha'.
Hannity is one of the most galling examples of this. His politics has sadly influenced his theology instead of the other way around. Boy is he in the wrong on the birth control issue.
Wonderful homily. I need to hear it again. I wish that he would have spoken even more slowly so I could think more about each profound concept he set forth.
ReplyDeleteMore!! Love this. Thank you for posting. I am on the search now for when Patrick expounds upon these ideas in his Open Line show. If anyone knows a show where he addresses this in detail and in specific examples with callers, please post the episode!! Thank you!
ReplyDeleteHi all!! if you want more and a real life context, check out Patrick Madrid Open Line show 4-14-11 starts talking about it around 54 minutes 45 seconds in. Cheers!!
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